Comments on: A personal response NOT a review of The Business | Belvoir https://classic.augustasupple.com/2011/05/a-personal-response-not-a-review-of-the-business-belvoir/ Thu, 14 Aug 2014 23:31:48 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.4.27 By: Helen Barry https://classic.augustasupple.com/2011/05/a-personal-response-not-a-review-of-the-business-belvoir/comment-page-1/#comment-4647 Mon, 16 May 2011 14:12:28 +0000 https://classic.augustasupple.com/?p=2328#comment-4647 Great response and I’m glad I got to read it. I think you are absolutely right – why not set it now? The sooner we move on from this 80s nostalgia and start examining who we are today the sooner we might understand where we are going. Greed has existed in all eras, as has family disharmony and to be sure these universal values would have held much more weight in a setting devoid of “Kerplunk”.

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By: Augusta Supple https://classic.augustasupple.com/2011/05/a-personal-response-not-a-review-of-the-business-belvoir/comment-page-1/#comment-4538 Tue, 10 May 2011 11:34:31 +0000 https://classic.augustasupple.com/?p=2328#comment-4538 Hi Suse,
Thanks for your response Suse- I agree with your comment about Gavin’s writing… and I have now re- read the play 4 times (yes, I read it when I was in different moods, to make sure I wasn’t being unfair) – and I maintain that there is nothing wrong with the writing. It’s the production which is flawed, crass, obvious, overstated etc.
I can tell from your comment, Suse, you are clearly a talented writer in your own right and I am glad you could hear beyond the visual distraction of the production.
For another excellent example of fine writing, Lachlan Philpott’s Silent Disco is on at Griffin Theatre and well worth the visit.

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By: Suse Coffee https://classic.augustasupple.com/2011/05/a-personal-response-not-a-review-of-the-business-belvoir/comment-page-1/#comment-4534 Tue, 10 May 2011 07:09:38 +0000 https://classic.augustasupple.com/?p=2328#comment-4534 Completely (but gently) disagree with you re the writing Jack and Connie.
The apparent looseness of the writing was, I felt, deceptive. For me it kept changing- one minute it was brash, hard as nails, but then it would suckerpunch me with something really lyrical. Like the people in the play. They are used to being hard and they live shallow lives, so that all they have are well worn phrases and jingles, but then when they try to speak from their hearts, out pour deeper, poetic words. When the uncle talks about the billy cart, it was just gorgeous. The first act ends with an advertising jingle. The second act ends with silence. The third act ends with a curse- the breath that killed you was thirty years ago. 2011 minus thirty is 1981. We’re all dying that slow death from the poison of the last thirty years. I felt like the writer was taking me on a tour of Australian language. I am studying writing at the moment and it felt like a masterclass to me. Johnathan Gavin does with words what Rembrandt does with paint and canvas.

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By: RmcC https://classic.augustasupple.com/2011/05/a-personal-response-not-a-review-of-the-business-belvoir/comment-page-1/#comment-4455 Fri, 06 May 2011 03:41:30 +0000 https://classic.augustasupple.com/?p=2328#comment-4455 What play were you all watching?
I saw a blazing piece of left-wing polemic, aimed at the ‘relaxed and comfortable’ Boomers and the iphone generation. It was a trojan horse- using nostalgia as the entrypoint. I don’t know Gorky’s play, but if you want to see volatile political theatre, The Business is it.

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By: James Waites » Blog Archive » THE BAD NEWS: BELVOIR’S THE BUSINESS https://classic.augustasupple.com/2011/05/a-personal-response-not-a-review-of-the-business-belvoir/comment-page-1/#comment-4453 Thu, 05 May 2011 23:41:31 +0000 https://classic.augustasupple.com/?p=2328#comment-4453 […] to greedy superficiality in Australia, the 1980s may well come to mind. Now might be a good time to read Augusta Supple’s review. She had as many problems with the production as  as I do – and many of the same […]

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By: Augusta Supple https://classic.augustasupple.com/2011/05/a-personal-response-not-a-review-of-the-business-belvoir/comment-page-1/#comment-4432 Thu, 05 May 2011 00:08:03 +0000 https://classic.augustasupple.com/?p=2328#comment-4432 Thanks for your response Connie, especially in relation to the original text.

I am re-reading the script – and I still don’t think (at least the printed version) is as bad as the production. The portrayal of the characters are very obvious with the exception of Kate Box’s Anna… and this choice to turn the farce up 100% and to lose realism I think is an unfortunate one. So I think in this case the direction, in particular the tone of the play has destroyed the potential of the script/ relevance of the story.

We are all in agreement – Australian writers should be on our mainstages. Absolutely. no question. But perhaps they should be given the freedom (or trust) to write something THEY are interested in, not given assignments to regurgitate Russian or European texts of last century?

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By: Con Kreski https://classic.augustasupple.com/2011/05/a-personal-response-not-a-review-of-the-business-belvoir/comment-page-1/#comment-4431 Wed, 04 May 2011 23:53:27 +0000 https://classic.augustasupple.com/?p=2328#comment-4431 I went with a friend and didn’t read any reviews until afterwards when I saw them here.
Amazing. What’s going on?
The writing was simply awful – even good writers write badly when they don’t know what or why they’re doing it. Weak, obvious jokes. Imprecise or cliched sentences that sat badly in actor’s mouths. And then that core question others talk about…why? Why the eighties? The original play (I believe) was about a woman in a particular set of circumstances, destined to lose everything without her economic power. The family concern was the only way she could survive, it was a play about women’s subjugation, and the capacity for mean capitalism to undermine families – and society. The early feminist and Russian context removed made the play a group of cartoon characters doing pratfalls and acting out of avarice, not necessity.

Well, I suppose it’s OK, I like the way our theatre companies are giving new writers and directors chances every now and again, and we’ll get get fizzers along the way. But what made me want to write was, until I found my way here, no-one seemed to want to point out just how sloppy and poorly done The Business is. Generalised acting, silly caricature, lazy writing, over-design. If we can’t spot what’s poor how can we celebrate what’s great? Surely it isn’t because Belvoir’s above criticism?

Connie

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By: Augusta Supple https://classic.augustasupple.com/2011/05/a-personal-response-not-a-review-of-the-business-belvoir/comment-page-1/#comment-4430 Wed, 04 May 2011 23:45:38 +0000 https://classic.augustasupple.com/?p=2328#comment-4430 Hi Jack,

Thanks for your feedback. I saw the second night performance, and I am curious to know how the rest of the run is received by punters (and industry).

I think if this production was on at the non-mainstage venue, say the Tap Gallery or perhaps Sidetrack Theatre or indeed if this was work done by an independent company – would the reviews it has received so far be as generous? Or is there a level of leniency because it is Belvoir?

There are some pretty audacious claims about the relevance of such an adaptation in relation to the Australian canon and I think they are worth interrogating. (especially off the back of such a fine adaptation such as Simon Stone’s Wild Duck)

I have not seen Sved’s direction in 10 years, so I’m not really in the position to comment, but I will say that on this occasion I do not think the tone of the production supports nor strengthens the script.

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By: Jack https://classic.augustasupple.com/2011/05/a-personal-response-not-a-review-of-the-business-belvoir/comment-page-1/#comment-4419 Wed, 04 May 2011 10:25:53 +0000 https://classic.augustasupple.com/?p=2328#comment-4419 Which performance did you see?

I saw the first preview and thought it was pretty horrible. Basically, to me it came across as untidy, as if the writer, director and actors were working on 3 separate plays. I laughed at Samantha Young’s costumes and Fruit Loops in a croissant. Most of the jokes fell flat.

I’ve read the reviews in the major publications. My instant reaction was that it must have been really tightened and improved over the preview period, but your comments have summed up my reactions precisely (just more concisely).

After this, Before/After and Dealing with Clair, I’m beginning to question Sved’s directing style.

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By: Augusta Supple https://classic.augustasupple.com/2011/05/a-personal-response-not-a-review-of-the-business-belvoir/comment-page-1/#comment-4401 Wed, 04 May 2011 00:53:29 +0000 https://classic.augustasupple.com/?p=2328#comment-4401 Hi James –

Thanks for your response to my response.

I, for one, would love to hear your thoughts on what this means to someone who was alive and thriving as an adult in the 80s. My generation don’t really know what it was actually like and perhaps our nostalgia for our childhoods over-shaddows the true feeling/spirit/aura of the 80s.

I really don’t think I have pinned the problems of the production – but I am taking great care in re-reading the play as I am such a massive Jono Gavin fan – and I would love to know what you think I may have missed.

Looking forward to reading you… as always,

Augusta

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